Some chronology for John Joseph Ray


My Crepe Myrtles in blossom

1981

India

Joy and I also went to India on sabbatical in about 1981. We were supposed to be there six months but only lasted 6 weeks. It was quite a culture-shock. The squalor really got to me. I think I was too middle-aged for it by that time.

Despite all that I was still enormously moved by India and stopped over there on a couple of later occasions on my way to and from London.

I found that if I lived in top hotels I could hack it. I only saw Bombay plus a bit of Delhi.

Travelling around would have just put me more in touch with Indian squalor and inefficiency. It is amazing what junk Indian products are.

I did however accomplish what I intended. I got a social survey done.

I also looked up Dinaz Sadry, an old friend of Dinyar Mistry whom he later married and brought to Sydney. Dinaz is a great girl: Personality plus and full of good humour. We always had lots of laughs. She was running an organization (the Ratan Tata Institute) with 400 employees. A typical dynamic Parsee. She is very tall for an Indian. She must be about 5'9" and Dinyar about 6'.

Needless to say, I liked the food in India. I got a bad wog from it on one occasion after I had dined with an affluent Indian family (the "Ray" family, in fact!). I was therefore rather pleased with myself when I heard that it had knocked them about at least as badly as me. Not that I liked them being sick. It just showed that it had to be a pretty bad wog to beat my immune system.

What was best about India, however, is incontestably the people. ”Everybody" who goes to India finds people they like. They are just personally very nice to others generally.

And yet they have had more communal bloodshed (religious wars) than anybody else. It shows what a poison religion (particularly Islam) can be. Muslims are, of course, India's major ethnic minority.

Like all poor peoples, however, Indians tend to be ready to cheat you if you are not careful.



A spot of ethnography: The Parsees

I have had quite a bit of contact with Parsees in India and elsewhere so I thought I should perhaps give a bit of background about them

Sometimes called “the Jews of India” (though India does have a few real Jews) the Parsees are descendants of Zoroastrian true-believers who fled the Persian empire at the time of its conquest by Muslims about a thousand years ago.  They took refuge in what is now the Indian State of Gujurat and have Gujurati as their native language to this day.  Perhaps because of their typically Iranian energy or their very un-fatalistic religion, they have prospered mightily in India.  They founded India’s steel, nuclear, computer and airline industries and one of their sons (Rajiv Gandhi) even became Prime Minister of India for some time while another (Sam Manekshaw) headed the Indian Army.  Other distinguished Parsees could be mentioned.  Two even sat in the House of Commons as representatives of British constituencies many years ago.  Such achievements for a population of only 90,000 people out of 900 million Indians are truly staggering.  It certainly shows what a small minority can do both to maintain itself and lead the larger society.

So in spite of India’s generally abject poverty the Parsee living standard has long been more or less at a Western level.  Their over-representation among the upper strata of Indian society makes any eminence that Western Jews have achieved seem puny by comparison.  If “jealousy” is the reason behind the persecution of Jews, the Parsees should be the most persecuted minority on earth.  Yet amid the seething hot-bed of religious, racial, caste and communal hatreds that is India, the Parsees have remained unscathed.  They are, in fact, somewhat popular.  How do they do it?

The answer is rather simple.  The Parsees have always been grateful to the host community that gave them safe refuge from the Muslims. Instead of regarding their hosts with fear and reserve, they actually tend to appreciate their hosts.  They certainly make great efforts not to offend their hosts (e.g. they tend to avoid eating beef and pork not because Zoroastrianism forbids it but because one offends Hindus and the other Muslims).  This has beneficial results at many levels, not the least of which is the interpersonal level.  The level that is most visible, however, is the ultimate level when Parsees are deciding what to do with the fortunes that many of them accumulate.  Such fortunes are almost always used for charitable ends.  Parsee charitable foundations are in fact legendary.  Such foundations usually have as their first duty the succour of any needy Parsees but as the Parsee community is very small Indians generally are also major beneficiaries.  The Parsees, in other words, not only say “thank you” but say it very nicely and very convincingly.  There is nothing in Zoroastrianism that tells them that they are “chosen” in any way.  They are quite endogamous (though a lot are pretty brown so past intermarriage has been considerable) but this is normal and understood in India.  In fact, their endogamy seems Indian rather than Zoroastrian.  Zoroastrianism teaches that the help of all men is needed in the fight against evil.

So the Parsees show pretty plainly that a prosperous and dominant minority can have both earned their position fairly and have done no harm in doing so.

A fuller ethnography of the Parsees than the few notes given above is to be found in Kulke, E. (1978) The Parsees in India: A minority as agent of social change New Delhi: Vikas.  There is an oldfashioned but informative article about them here and there is more than you will ever want to know about them here

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